Showing posts with label sp3. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sp3. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Collation problem

Hello,

I think I'd might have a small collation problem.

Configuration:
Two SQL Srv 2000 SP3 (running on clusters).
Booth servers configured with SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS
collation.

On each server, I have one database, which collation is
Latin1_General_CI_AS.

I've created a view on Server1.Database1, which is reading complete
table from Server2.Database2.

Checking the collation, the view has, I was surpriced, the collation
was the same as server collation.
Is it always, that building views between two different servers, the
object created will use default collation of server?

The problem is, this view is intergrated in other join-where query on
server1, where other objects used are from server1 and I get error
message:

select TABLE_FROM_SERVER1.Col1 from
TABLE_FROM_SERVER1,
VIEW_ON_SERVER1_BUT_ACCESSING_COMPLETE_SERVER2
where TABLE_FROM_SERVER1.Col1 = 'bubu_si_lala'

Server: Msg 446, Level 16, State 9, Line 1
Cannot resolve collation conflict for equal to operation.

The sulution, of joining this view will be changed anyway (is not
enought fast) but I would like to know, how is it possible, to solve so
kind of problem.

Is it possible to set the collation for created view, and determine
collation the same the database have?

Greatings

Mateusz[posted and mailed, please reply in news]

Matik (marzec@.sauron.xo.pl) writes:
> Configuration:
> Two SQL Srv 2000 SP3 (running on clusters).
> Booth servers configured with SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS
> collation.
> On each server, I have one database, which collation is
> Latin1_General_CI_AS.
> I've created a view on Server1.Database1, which is reading complete
> table from Server2.Database2.
> Checking the collation, the view has, I was surpriced, the collation
> was the same as server collation.
> Is it always, that building views between two different servers, the
> object created will use default collation of server?

Since I don't really know which database that have which collation,
I don't really want to go into speculation. But without looking in
Books Online, my guess is that each column in the view retains the
collation the column has in its source table. And the repro below
appears to confirm this. It also demonstrates how you can modify your
view by using the COLLATE clause to resolve the problem.

create database collate_test collate Polish_CS_AS
go
use collate_test
go
create view nisse_view (PolishCustomerID, CustomerID) as
select CustomerID COLLATE database_default,
CustomerID
from Northwind..Customers
go
-- Succeeds, since CustomerID retains the collation from the
-- Northwind database.
select * from nisse_view n
where not exists (select * from
Northwind..Orders O
where O.CustomerID = n.CustomerID)
go
-- Fails, as we here use the column with a collation
-- of the database.
select * from nisse_view n
where not exists (select * from
Northwind..Orders O
where O.CustomerID = n.PolishCustomerID)

go
use master
go
drop database collate_test

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp|||Thank You Erland,

As always helpfull answer!

Greatings

Mateusz|||Thanks for your answer!!

Saturday, February 25, 2012

Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3

I have installed MSDE version of SQL server 2000 and sp3 with merge modules
and I cannot start the SQL server when the instance name is other than the
default. Can someone tell me what is wrong?
Hi Yiannis,
From your descriptions, I understood that you could not start SQL Server's
instance when this instance is not the default one by MSDE. Have I
understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to
let me know
Based on my knowledge, database engine operates as a service or process
that is separate from any application using MSDE 2000. Either MSDE 2000 or
any other version of SQL Server can be running at the same time on the same
computer. Each copy is called an instance. Each instance is installed,
started, stopped, configured, and patched independently of the other
instances.
However, I am not sure your steps about the installation and start-up for
the instance and what error messages could you find Event Log. Would you
please give me detailed descriptions about it, which I believe, will get us
closer to the resolution Could you give me a descriptions, with which I
could reproduce it on my machine?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
|||Here is how things are. With a setup project I am using all the merge
modules to install the SQL MSDE to the machine. When I configure the server
to use the default instance everything is going fine. When I change the
instance name and I use a named one then when I try to start the server
(same command "start") the server doesn;t start at all. I am trying to start
the server with the command from the instance binn dir "sqlservr -scommerce"
and I cannot start it. When I use the sqlmanagr to start the server it is
starting but the command doesn't start it.
Running machine is an XP Professional version 2002.
From the command prompt the command is going till "SQL Server is ready for
client connections" and never gets to an end.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> From your descriptions, I understood that you could not start SQL Server's
> instance when this instance is not the default one by MSDE. Have I
> understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to
> let me know
> Based on my knowledge, database engine operates as a service or process
> that is separate from any application using MSDE 2000. Either MSDE 2000 or
> any other version of SQL Server can be running at the same time on the
same
> computer. Each copy is called an instance. Each instance is installed,
> started, stopped, configured, and patched independently of the other
> instances.
> However, I am not sure your steps about the installation and start-up for
> the instance and what error messages could you find Event Log. Would you
> please give me detailed descriptions about it, which I believe, will get
us
> closer to the resolution Could you give me a descriptions, with which I
> could reproduce it on my machine?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>
>
|||Hi Yiannis,
Thanks for you update!
However, I am still not sure about the root cause of this issue, Would you
please help me collection more detailed information? More detailed
information, I believe, will get us closer to the resolutions
First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer? Could you start MSSQL
Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
marks)?
Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
about the startup and post it here?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
|||> First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
> Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer?
Yes I can.
Could you start MSSQL
> Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
> marks)?
The server is doesn't start. When I press Enter a dialog opens and closes
but I don';t have a chance to see anything.

> Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
> Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
> troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
> about the startup and post it here?
>
Here is the log file.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.69 server Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.760
(Intel X86)
Dec 17 2002 14:22:05
Copyright (c) 1988-2003 Microsoft Corporation
Desktop Engine on Windows NT 5.1 (Build 2600: )
2004-05-28 16:34:39.72 server Copyright (C) 1988-2002 Microsoft
Corporation.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.73 server All rights reserved.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.74 server Server Process ID is 2680.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.74 server Logging SQL Server messages in file
'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL$COMMERCE\LOG\ERRORLOG'.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.78 server SQL Server is starting at priority class
'normal'(1 CPU detected).
2004-05-28 16:34:39.82 server SQL Server configured for thread mode
processing.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.84 server Using dynamic lock allocation. [500] Lock
Blocks, [1000] Lock Owner Blocks.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.89 spid3 Starting up database 'master'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.26 server Using 'SSNETLIB.DLL' version '8.0.766'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.29 spid5 Starting up database 'model'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.34 spid3 Server name is 'MANOSVMXP\COMMERCE'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.35 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 4
2004-05-28 16:34:40.37 server SQL server listening on 192.5.129.70: 1041.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.38 server SQL server listening on 127.0.0.1: 1041.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.58 spid5 Clearing tempdb database.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.41 spid5 Starting up database 'tempdb'.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.76 spid3 Recovery complete.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.77 spid3 SQL global counter collection task is
created.
2004-05-28 16:34:42.67 server SQL server listening on TCP, Shared Memory,
Named Pipes.
2004-05-28 16:34:42.69 server SQL Server is ready for client connections
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Thanks for you update!
> However, I am still not sure about the root cause of this issue, Would you
> please help me collection more detailed information? More detailed
> information, I believe, will get us closer to the resolutions
> First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
> Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer? Could you start MSSQL
> Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
> marks)?
> Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
> Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
> troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
> about the startup and post it here?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>
>
|||Hi Yiannis,
Thanks for your updates!
Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
finding a workaround
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
|||Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
The Command is "sqlservr -sCOMMERCE" the one I am using in order to start
MSSQL. "Commerce" is the instance name.
Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
System error 123 has occured.

> Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
> hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
> server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
it is hanging the command from a dos prompt and then I am trying from the
services by right clicking to start and I get an error (message actually)
which says "The MSSQL$COMMERCE service on Local Computer started and then
stopped. Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for
example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service."

> Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> finding a workaround
>
I am using InstallShield to install an application to the target machine. I
have configured the merge modules of the SQL Server 2k with sp3 to install
and everything is working fine if I use the default instance name. Sinse
other software manufacturers are using the default instance name there is a
problem installing all software in one machine. So I thought that changing
the instance name of my app would solve this problem and I could have my app
running with a different instance name. There is where the problem started
and I cannot start the SQL server with this instance name. From my code I am
usinf the command to start the SQL.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Thanks for your updates!
> Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
> Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
> hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
> server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
> Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> finding a workaround
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>
|||I am trying to start the SQL with SQL Server object and command start to
start it but since I cannot do it like this I am trying with command line
and this is not working either.
"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
news:eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> The Command is "sqlservr -sCOMMERCE" the one I am using in order to start
> MSSQL. "Commerce" is the instance name.
>
> Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> System error 123 has occured.
>
if[vbcol=seagreen]
the
> it is hanging the command from a dos prompt and then I am trying from the
> services by right clicking to start and I get an error (message actually)
> which says "The MSSQL$COMMERCE service on Local Computer started and then
> stopped. Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for
> example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service."
>
> I am using InstallShield to install an application to the target machine.
I
> have configured the merge modules of the SQL Server 2k with sp3 to install
> and everything is working fine if I use the default instance name. Sinse
> other software manufacturers are using the default instance name there is
a
> problem installing all software in one machine. So I thought that changing
> the instance name of my app would solve this problem and I could have my
app
> running with a different instance name. There is where the problem started
> and I cannot start the SQL server with this instance name. From my code I
am[vbcol=seagreen]
> usinf the command to start the SQL.
>
>
> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
command[vbcol=seagreen]
if[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
rights.
>
|||Hi Yiannis,
Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
try to find what's the result of command "net start
mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
What's the result of it? Could you start SQL Server successfully?
If you could, will this satisfy your requirements?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
|||> Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
> try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
I did it and I get an error "The service name is invalid"
I was looking at my previous post and I realize that it doesn;t make sense
what I wrote. The way I am trying to start SQL is with the Server object
from SQL-DMO. Since I cannot do it like this I am trying to start the server
with the command line.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
> try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> What's the result of it? Could you start SQL Server successfully?
> If you could, will this satisfy your requirements?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>

Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3

I have installed MSDE version of SQL server 2000 and sp3 with merge modules
and I cannot start the SQL server when the instance name is other than the
default. Can someone tell me what is wrong?Hi Yiannis,
From your descriptions, I understood that you could not start SQL Server's
instance when this instance is not the default one by MSDE. Have I
understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to
let me know:)
Based on my knowledge, database engine operates as a service or process
that is separate from any application using MSDE 2000. Either MSDE 2000 or
any other version of SQL Server can be running at the same time on the same
computer. Each copy is called an instance. Each instance is installed,
started, stopped, configured, and patched independently of the other
instances.
However, I am not sure your steps about the installation and start-up for
the instance and what error messages could you find Event Log. Would you
please give me detailed descriptions about it, which I believe, will get us
closer to the resolution:) Could you give me a descriptions, with which I
could reproduce it on my machine?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
---
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!|||Here is how things are. With a setup project I am using all the merge
modules to install the SQL MSDE to the machine. When I configure the server
to use the default instance everything is going fine. When I change the
instance name and I use a named one then when I try to start the server
(same command "start") the server doesn;t start at all. I am trying to start
the server with the command from the instance binn dir "sqlservr -scommerce"
and I cannot start it. When I use the sqlmanagr to start the server it is
starting but the command doesn't start it.
Running machine is an XP Professional version 2002.
From the command prompt the command is going till "SQL Server is ready for
client connections" and never gets to an end.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> From your descriptions, I understood that you could not start SQL Server's
> instance when this instance is not the default one by MSDE. Have I
> understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to
> let me know:)
> Based on my knowledge, database engine operates as a service or process
> that is separate from any application using MSDE 2000. Either MSDE 2000 or
> any other version of SQL Server can be running at the same time on the
same
> computer. Each copy is called an instance. Each instance is installed,
> started, stopped, configured, and patched independently of the other
> instances.
> However, I am not sure your steps about the installation and start-up for
> the instance and what error messages could you find Event Log. Would you
> please give me detailed descriptions about it, which I believe, will get
us
> closer to the resolution:) Could you give me a descriptions, with which I
> could reproduce it on my machine?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> ---
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>
>|||Hi Yiannis,
Thanks for you update!
However, I am still not sure about the root cause of this issue, Would you
please help me collection more detailed information? More detailed
information, I believe, will get us closer to the resolutions :)
First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer? Could you start MSSQL
Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
marks)?
Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
about the startup and post it here?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
---
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!|||> First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
> Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer?
Yes I can.
Could you start MSSQL
> Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
> marks)?
The server is doesn't start. When I press Enter a dialog opens and closes
but I don';t have a chance to see anything.
> Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
> Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
> troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
> about the startup and post it here?
>
Here is the log file.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.69 server Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.760
(Intel X86)
Dec 17 2002 14:22:05
Copyright (c) 1988-2003 Microsoft Corporation
Desktop Engine on Windows NT 5.1 (Build 2600: )
2004-05-28 16:34:39.72 server Copyright (C) 1988-2002 Microsoft
Corporation.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.73 server All rights reserved.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.74 server Server Process ID is 2680.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.74 server Logging SQL Server messages in file
'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL$COMMERCE\LOG\ERRORLOG'.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.78 server SQL Server is starting at priority class
'normal'(1 CPU detected).
2004-05-28 16:34:39.82 server SQL Server configured for thread mode
processing.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.84 server Using dynamic lock allocation. [500] Lock
Blocks, [1000] Lock Owner Blocks.
2004-05-28 16:34:39.89 spid3 Starting up database 'master'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.26 server Using 'SSNETLIB.DLL' version '8.0.766'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.29 spid5 Starting up database 'model'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.34 spid3 Server name is 'MANOSVMXP\COMMERCE'.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.35 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 4
2004-05-28 16:34:40.37 server SQL server listening on 192.5.129.70: 1041.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.38 server SQL server listening on 127.0.0.1: 1041.
2004-05-28 16:34:40.58 spid5 Clearing tempdb database.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.41 spid5 Starting up database 'tempdb'.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.76 spid3 Recovery complete.
2004-05-28 16:34:41.77 spid3 SQL global counter collection task is
created.
2004-05-28 16:34:42.67 server SQL server listening on TCP, Shared Memory,
Named Pipes.
2004-05-28 16:34:42.69 server SQL Server is ready for client connections
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Thanks for you update!
> However, I am still not sure about the root cause of this issue, Would you
> please help me collection more detailed information? More detailed
> information, I believe, will get us closer to the resolutions :)
> First of all, could you start MSSQL Services by means of Control Panel ->
> Administrative Tools -> Services -> MSSQLServer? Could you start MSSQL
> Services by running Command "net start mssqlserver" (without quotation
> marks)?
> Secondly, could you see some error logs when you are starting up the SQL
> Server? Error Number will be the most helpful ones for us to
> troubleshooting. Could you find what in DISK:\\Path\MSSQL$InstanceName\LOG
> about the startup and post it here?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> ---
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>
>|||Hi Yiannis,
Thanks for your updates!
Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
finding a workaround:)
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
---
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!|||Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
The Command is "sqlservr -sCOMMERCE" the one I am using in order to start
MSSQL. "Commerce" is the instance name.
Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
System error 123 has occured.
> Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
> hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
> server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
it is hanging the command from a dos prompt and then I am trying from the
services by right clicking to start and I get an error (message actually)
which says "The MSSQL$COMMERCE service on Local Computer started and then
stopped. Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for
example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service."
> Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> finding a workaround:)
>
I am using InstallShield to install an application to the target machine. I
have configured the merge modules of the SQL Server 2k with sp3 to install
and everything is working fine if I use the default instance name. Sinse
other software manufacturers are using the default instance name there is a
problem installing all software in one machine. So I thought that changing
the instance name of my app would solve this problem and I could have my app
running with a different instance name. There is where the problem started
and I cannot start the SQL server with this instance name. From my code I am
usinf the command to start the SQL.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Thanks for your updates!
> Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
> Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when if
> hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login the
> server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
> Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> finding a workaround:)
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> ---
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>|||I am trying to start the SQL with SQL Server object and command start to
start it but since I cannot do it like this I am trying with command line
and this is not working either.
"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
news:eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the command
> > in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> > Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
> The Command is "sqlservr -sCOMMERCE" the one I am using in order to start
> MSSQL. "Commerce" is the instance name.
>
> Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> > mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> > 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> > 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> System error 123 has occured.
>
> > Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when
if
> > hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login
the
> > server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
> it is hanging the command from a dos prompt and then I am trying from the
> services by right clicking to start and I get an error (message actually)
> which says "The MSSQL$COMMERCE service on Local Computer started and then
> stopped. Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for
> example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service."
>
> > Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> > MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> > finding a workaround:)
> >
> I am using InstallShield to install an application to the target machine.
I
> have configured the merge modules of the SQL Server 2k with sp3 to install
> and everything is working fine if I use the default instance name. Sinse
> other software manufacturers are using the default instance name there is
a
> problem installing all software in one machine. So I thought that changing
> the instance name of my app would solve this problem and I could have my
app
> running with a different instance name. There is where the problem started
> and I cannot start the SQL server with this instance name. From my code I
am
> usinf the command to start the SQL.
>
>
> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Yiannis,
> >
> > Thanks for your updates!
> >
> > Since you could start MSSQL Services, could you tell me what's the
command
> > in "Path to executable"? (You could find Path to executeable in Control
> > Panel -> Services -> Right Click MSSQLServer\InstanceName)
> >
> > Secondly, try to find what's the result of command "net start
> > mssqlserver\InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> > 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> > 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> >
> > Finally, it seems OK with your Log files. Would you please tell me when
if
> > hangs in "SQL Server is ready for client connections", Could you login
the
> > server? If not, what's the error message and error number you will get?
> >
> > Anyway, Would you please show me why do you like to startup
> > MSSQLServer\InstanceName with command? Maybe it will be easier for us
> > finding a workaround:)
> >
> > Sincerely yours,
> >
> > Mingqing Cheng
> > Microsoft Online Support
> > ---
> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
rights.
> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
> >
>|||Hi Yiannis,
Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
try to find what's the result of command "net start
mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
What's the result of it? Could you start SQL Server successfully?
If you could, will this satisfy your requirements?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
---
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!|||> Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
> try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
I did it and I get an error "The service name is invalid"
I was looking at my previous post and I realize that it doesn;t make sense
what I wrote. The way I am trying to start SQL is with the Server object
from SQL-DMO. Since I cannot do it like this I am trying to start the server
with the command line.
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Oops, It's an type that you shoud use $ instead of \
> try to find what's the result of command "net start
> mssqlserver$InstanceName" you could do it in the following ways
> 1. Strat -> Run -> typing "cmd" , without quatation marks
> 2. "net start mssqlserver\InstanceName"
> What's the result of it? Could you start SQL Server successfully?
> If you could, will this satisfy your requirements?
> Thank you for your patience and cooperation. If you have any questions or
> concerns, don't hesitate to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> ---
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>|||Hi Yiannis,
Thanks for your updates!
Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server with
"net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some detailed
information about it?
From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood,
please feel free to let me know :)
Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
Start Method (SQLServer)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmor
ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't hesitate
to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
Sincerely yours,
Mingqing Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
---
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!|||> Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server with
> "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some detailed
> information about it?
What kind of detailed information would you like?
> From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
> with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood,
> please feel free to let me know :)
>
It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It is that the
application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance name is the
default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the instance name
is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is not an
allowed to use word?
""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Yiannis,
> Thanks for your updates!
> Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server with
> "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some detailed
> information about it?
> From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
> with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I misunderstood,
> please feel free to let me know :)
> Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
> Start Method (SQLServer)
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmor
> ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
> Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't hesitate
> to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> Sincerely yours,
> Mingqing Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
> ---
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
> Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>|||Considering that the instance name of the SQL is "Commerce" can you please
tell me the exact command to start the SQL server with SQL-DMO.
"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
news:uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
with
> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some detailed
> > information about it?
> What kind of detailed information would you like?
> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
misunderstood,
> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >
> It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It is that
the
> application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance name is
the
> default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the instance name
> is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
> Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is not an
> allowed to use word?
>
> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Yiannis,
> >
> > Thanks for your updates!
> >
> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
with
> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some detailed
> > information about it?
> >
> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
misunderstood,
> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >
> > Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
> >
> > Start Method (SQLServer)
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmor
> > ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
> >
> > Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't
hesitate
> > to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> >
> > Sincerely yours,
> >
> > Mingqing Cheng
> > Microsoft Online Support
> > ---
> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
rights.
> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
> >
>|||Hi Yiannis,
We are looking for somebody who is familar with SQL DMO and will reply him with more information as soon as possible. Thanks very much.
Best regards,
Yanhong Huang
Microsoft Community Support
Get Secure! ¨C www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.|||Hello Yiannis,
Please read "Getting Started with SQL-DMO" for detailed SQL-DMO
information.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmor
ef_con01_5qup.asp?frame=true
SQL-DMO Syntax to start SQL server is ,
--Syntax
object.Start( StartMode , [ Server ] , [ Login ] , [ Password ] )
Also, the SQL Server Service name of the instance can be accessed as
"MSSQL$<instance name>"
Here is a sample code snippet using C++ to start the sqlserver instace of
name "Commerce",
HRESULT hr;
LPSQLDMOSERVER pSQLServer;
WCHAR* szServiceName = L"MSSQL$Commerce";
BOOL fConnect=0;
WCHAR* szLogin= L"Login";
WCHAR* szPassword = L"pswd";
hr = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_SQLDMOServer, NULL,
CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_ISQLDMOServer, (void**) &pSQLServer);
if (SUCCEEDED(hr))
pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName);
pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
pSQLServer->Release();
Please let me know if this resolves the problem, else feel free to post
further questions,
Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
Vikrant Dalwale
Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit the
http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three straightforward
steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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>Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:58:01 +0300
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>Considering that the instance name of the SQL is "Commerce" can you please
>tell me the exact command to start the SQL server with SQL-DMO.
>
>
>"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
>news:uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
>with
>> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
detailed
>> > information about it?
>> What kind of detailed information would you like?
>> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
>> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
>misunderstood,
>> > please feel free to let me know :)
>> >
>> It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It is that
>the
>> application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance name is
>the
>> default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the instance
name
>> is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
>> Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is not an
>> allowed to use word?
>>
>> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>> news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi Yiannis,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your updates!
>> >
>> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
>with
>> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
detailed
>> > information about it?
>> >
>> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL Server
>> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
>misunderstood,
>> > please feel free to let me know :)
>> >
>> > Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
>> >
>> > Start Method (SQLServer)
>> >
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmo
r
>> > ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
>> >
>> > Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't
>hesitate
>> > to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
>> >
>> > Sincerely yours,
>> >
>> > Mingqing Cheng
>> > Microsoft Online Support
>> > ---
>> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
>rights.
>> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
>> >
>>
>
>|||> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
You are missing one parameter which is the server (2nd parameter).
"Vikrant V Dalwale [MSFT]" <vikrantd@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> Hello Yiannis,
> Please read "Getting Started with SQL-DMO" for detailed SQL-DMO
> information.
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmor
> ef_con01_5qup.asp?frame=true
>
> SQL-DMO Syntax to start SQL server is ,
> --Syntax
> object.Start( StartMode , [ Server ] , [ Login ] , [ Password ] )
> Also, the SQL Server Service name of the instance can be accessed as
> "MSSQL$<instance name>"
> Here is a sample code snippet using C++ to start the sqlserver instace of
> name "Commerce",
> HRESULT hr;
> LPSQLDMOSERVER pSQLServer;
> WCHAR* szServiceName = L"MSSQL$Commerce";
> BOOL fConnect=0;
> WCHAR* szLogin= L"Login";
> WCHAR* szPassword = L"pswd";
> hr = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_SQLDMOServer, NULL,
> CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_ISQLDMOServer, (void**) &pSQLServer);
> if (SUCCEEDED(hr))
> pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName);
> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
> pSQLServer->Release();
> Please let me know if this resolves the problem, else feel free to post
> further questions,
> Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
> Vikrant Dalwale
> Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
>
> Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit the
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three
straightforward
> steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
>
> --
> >From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
> >References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> <L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
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> <uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> >Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:58:01 +0300
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> >
> >Considering that the instance name of the SQL is "Commerce" can you
please
> >tell me the exact command to start the SQL server with SQL-DMO.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
> >news:uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
> >with
> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> detailed
> >> > information about it?
> >>
> >> What kind of detailed information would you like?
> >>
> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
Server
> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> >misunderstood,
> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >> >
> >> It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It is
that
> >the
> >> application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance name
is
> >the
> >> default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the instance
> name
> >> is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
> >> Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is not
an
> >> allowed to use word?
> >>
> >>
> >> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >> news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi Yiannis,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your updates!
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your server
> >with
> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> detailed
> >> > information about it?
> >> >
> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
Server
> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> >misunderstood,
> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >> >
> >> > Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
> >> >
> >> > Start Method (SQLServer)
> >> >
> >>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmo
> r
> >> > ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't
> >hesitate
> >> > to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely yours,
> >> >
> >> > Mingqing Cheng
> >> > Microsoft Online Support
> >> > ---
> >> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> >> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
> >rights.
> >> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>|||Hello Yiannis,
Server Paramter is one of the 'optional' parameters. Since I set the
Service Name in
pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName); I didn't use the Server Param.
Does that answer your question ?
Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
Vikrant Dalwale
Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit the
http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three straightforward
steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
>References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
<L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<eZ4LOA7QEHA.1620@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
<8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<O74pNoLREHA.3596@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
<vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
<#w6pP2vREHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<uTgOZ26REHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
<uaLxkxuSEHA.504@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
>Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:40:15 +0300
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cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09|||I have been trying to find an example (like the one you gave me) how I can
start an SQL server using SQL-DMO and I couldn't find anywhere.
I am not saying the MSDN but an example.
Thanks a lot for your help
"Vikrant V Dalwale [MSFT]" <vikrantd@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OMi9fEcTEHA.308@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello Yiannis,
> Server Paramter is one of the 'optional' parameters. Since I set the
> Service Name in
> pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName); I didn't use the Server Param.
> Does that answer your question ?
> Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
> Vikrant Dalwale
> Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
>
> Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit the
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three
straightforward
> steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
>
> --
> >From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
> >References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> <L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> <eZ4LOA7QEHA.1620@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> <8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> <O74pNoLREHA.3596@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> <vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> <eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> <#w6pP2vREHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> <D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> <uTgOZ26REHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> <57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> <uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> <uaLxkxuSEHA.504@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> <o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
> >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:40:15 +0300
> >Lines: 186
> >X-Priority: 3
> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.0
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> >Message-ID: <uvKvtBZTEHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.103.183.221
> >Path:
>
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> phx.gbl
> >Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:344998
> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> >
> >> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
> >
> >
> >You are missing one parameter which is the server (2nd parameter).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Vikrant V Dalwale [MSFT]" <vikrantd@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> >news:o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> Hello Yiannis,
> >>
> >> Please read "Getting Started with SQL-DMO" for detailed SQL-DMO
> >> information.
> >>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmo
> r
> >> ef_con01_5qup.asp?frame=true
> >>
> >>
> >> SQL-DMO Syntax to start SQL server is ,
> >>
> >> --Syntax
> >> object.Start( StartMode , [ Server ] , [ Login ] , [ Password ] )
> >>
> >> Also, the SQL Server Service name of the instance can be accessed as
> >> "MSSQL$<instance name>"
> >>
> >> Here is a sample code snippet using C++ to start the sqlserver instace
> of
> >> name "Commerce",
> >>
> >> HRESULT hr;
> >> LPSQLDMOSERVER pSQLServer;
> >> WCHAR* szServiceName = L"MSSQL$Commerce";
> >> BOOL fConnect=0;
> >> WCHAR* szLogin= L"Login";
> >> WCHAR* szPassword = L"pswd";
> >>
> >> hr = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_SQLDMOServer, NULL,
> >> CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_ISQLDMOServer, (void**) &pSQLServer);
> >>
> >> if (SUCCEEDED(hr))
> >> pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName);
> >> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
> >>
> >> pSQLServer->Release();
> >>
> >> Please let me know if this resolves the problem, else feel free to post
> >> further questions,
> >>
> >> Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
> >>
> >> Vikrant Dalwale
> >>
> >> Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
> >>
> >>
> >> Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit
the
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three
> >straightforward
> >> steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >rights.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> >From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
> >> >References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> >> <L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >> <eZ4LOA7QEHA.1620@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> >> <8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >> <O74pNoLREHA.3596@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> >> <vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >> <eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> >> <#w6pP2vREHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> >> <D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >> <uTgOZ26REHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> >> <57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> >> <uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> >> >Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
> >> >Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:58:01 +0300
> >> >Lines: 73
> >> >X-Priority: 3
> >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.0
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> >> >Message-ID: <uaLxkxuSEHA.504@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.103.238.182
> >> >Path:
> >>
>cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP1
> 1
> >> phx.gbl
> >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:344441
> >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> >> >
> >> >Considering that the instance name of the SQL is "Commerce" can you
> >please
> >> >tell me the exact command to start the SQL server with SQL-DMO.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
> >> >news:uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your
server
> >> >with
> >> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> >> detailed
> >> >> > information about it?
> >> >>
> >> >> What kind of detailed information would you like?
> >> >>
> >> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
> >Server
> >> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> >> >misunderstood,
> >> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It is
> >that
> >> >the
> >> >> application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance
name
> >is
> >> >the
> >> >> default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the
instance
> >> name
> >> >> is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
> >> >> Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is
not
> >an
> >> >> allowed to use word?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >> news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi Yiannis,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for your updates!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your
server
> >> >with
> >> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> >> detailed
> >> >> > information about it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
> >Server
> >> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> >> >misunderstood,
> >> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Start Method (SQLServer)
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dm
> o
> >> r
> >> >> > ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't
> >> >hesitate
> >> >> > to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sincerely yours,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mingqing Cheng
> >> >> > Microsoft Online Support
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> >> >> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no
> >> >rights.
> >> >> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>|||I tried the command and I cannot make it work. I still have a problem
starting SQL. By the way I found a solution on an XP machine to start it by
the "net start MSSQL$COMMERCE". The problem now is on Windows 98. What
should I do?
"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
news:OPvc#AfTEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I have been trying to find an example (like the one you gave me) how I can
> start an SQL server using SQL-DMO and I couldn't find anywhere.
> I am not saying the MSDN but an example.
> Thanks a lot for your help
>
> "Vikrant V Dalwale [MSFT]" <vikrantd@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> news:OMi9fEcTEHA.308@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> > Hello Yiannis,
> >
> > Server Paramter is one of the 'optional' parameters. Since I set the
> > Service Name in
> > pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName); I didn't use the Server Param.
> >
> > Does that answer your question ?
> >
> > Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
> >
> > Vikrant Dalwale
> >
> > Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
> >
> >
> > Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit the
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three
> straightforward
> > steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > >From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
> > >References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > <L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > <eZ4LOA7QEHA.1620@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> > <8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > <O74pNoLREHA.3596@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> > <vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > <eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > <#w6pP2vREHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > <D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > <uTgOZ26REHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > <57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > <uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> > <uaLxkxuSEHA.504@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > <o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
> > >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:40:15 +0300
> > >Lines: 186
> > >X-Priority: 3
> > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.0
> > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132
> > >Message-ID: <uvKvtBZTEHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> > >NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.103.183.221
> > >Path:
> >
>
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09
> > phx.gbl
> > >Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:344998
> > >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> > >
> > >> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
> > >
> > >
> > >You are missing one parameter which is the server (2nd parameter).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Vikrant V Dalwale [MSFT]" <vikrantd@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> > >news:o8KAqlXTEHA.304@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> > >>
> > >> Hello Yiannis,
> > >>
> > >> Please read "Getting Started with SQL-DMO" for detailed SQL-DMO
> > >> information.
> > >>
> >
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dmo
> > r
> > >> ef_con01_5qup.asp?frame=true
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> SQL-DMO Syntax to start SQL server is ,
> > >>
> > >> --Syntax
> > >> object.Start( StartMode , [ Server ] , [ Login ] , [ Password ] )
> > >>
> > >> Also, the SQL Server Service name of the instance can be accessed as
> > >> "MSSQL$<instance name>"
> > >>
> > >> Here is a sample code snippet using C++ to start the sqlserver
instace
> > of
> > >> name "Commerce",
> > >>
> > >> HRESULT hr;
> > >> LPSQLDMOSERVER pSQLServer;
> > >> WCHAR* szServiceName = L"MSSQL$Commerce";
> > >> BOOL fConnect=0;
> > >> WCHAR* szLogin= L"Login";
> > >> WCHAR* szPassword = L"pswd";
> > >>
> > >> hr = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_SQLDMOServer, NULL,
> > >> CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_ISQLDMOServer, (void**)
&pSQLServer);
> > >>
> > >> if (SUCCEEDED(hr))
> > >> pSQLServer->SetName (szServiceName);
> > >> pSQLServer->Start(fConnect,szLogin,szPassword);
> > >>
> > >> pSQLServer->Release();
> > >>
> > >> Please let me know if this resolves the problem, else feel free to
post
> > >> further questions,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
> > >>
> > >> Vikrant Dalwale
> > >>
> > >> Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Microsoft highly recommends to all of our customers that they visit
> the
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three
> > >straightforward
> > >> steps listed to improve your computer?s security.
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > >rights.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> >From: "Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr>
> > >> >References: <O90PkN3QEHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > >> <L7bQM84QEHA.752@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >> <eZ4LOA7QEHA.1620@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
> > >> <8Jl0KIJREHA.3468@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >> <O74pNoLREHA.3596@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> > >> <vCpgCsuREHA.3804@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >> <eGTy3zvREHA.1388@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> > >> <#w6pP2vREHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > >> <D5pHwn4REHA.2164@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >> <uTgOZ26REHA.3420@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > >> <57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
> > >> <uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
> > >> >Subject: Re: Cnot start SQL Server 2000sp3
> > >> >Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:58:01 +0300
> > >> >Lines: 73
> > >> >X-Priority: 3
> > >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.0
> > >> >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132
> > >> >Message-ID: <uaLxkxuSEHA.504@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
> > >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> > >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.103.238.182
> > >> >Path:
> > >>
> >
>cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP1
> > 1
> > >> phx.gbl
> > >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:344441
> > >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> > >> >
> > >> >Considering that the instance name of the SQL is "Commerce" can you
> > >please
> > >> >tell me the exact command to start the SQL server with SQL-DMO.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >"Yiannis Patrikaidis" <yiannis@.arion.gr> wrote in message
> > >> >news:uFUjRifSEHA.644@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your
> server
> > >> >with
> > >> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> > >> detailed
> > >> >> > information about it?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What kind of detailed information would you like?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
> > >Server
> > >> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> > >> >misunderstood,
> > >> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> It is not that I would like to start SQL Server with SQL-DMO. It
is
> > >that
> > >> >the
> > >> >> application I have starts SQL with SQL-DMO and when the instance
> name
> > >is
> > >> >the
> > >> >> default then everything is fine. The problem starts when the
> instance
> > >> name
> > >> >> is other ther the default ie. COMMERCE.
> > >> >> Is there any possibility that the COMMERCE as an instance name is
> not
> > >an
> > >> >> allowed to use word?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ""Mingqing Cheng [MSFT]"" <v-mingqc@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >> message
> > >> >> news:57AMPpTSEHA.3960@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl...
> > >> >> > Hi Yiannis,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks for your updates!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Unfortunatly, I am still not sure why you could not open your
> server
> > >> >with
> > >> >> > "net start mssqlserver$COMMERCE". Would you please show me some
> > >> detailed
> > >> >> > information about it?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > From your deccriptions, I understood you would like to start SQL
> > >Server
> > >> >> > with SQL-DMO. Have I understood you? If there is anything I
> > >> >misunderstood,
> > >> >> > please feel free to let me know :)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Based on my knowledge, SQL-DMO have Start method to do the job
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Start Method (SQLServer)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqldmo/dm
> > o
> > >> r
> > >> >> > ef_m_s_7vg2.asp
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Hope this helps and if you have any questions or concerns, don't
> > >> >hesitate
> > >> >> > to let me know. We are here to be of assistance!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Sincerely yours,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Mingqing Cheng
> > >> >> > Microsoft Online Support
> > >> >> > ---
> > >> >> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> > >> >> > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers
no
> > >> >rights.
> > >> >> > Please reply to newsgroups only, many thanks!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>|||Hello Yiannis,
Thanks for your patience.
On win98 OS, MSDE runs only as an application and NOT as a Service. With
Net start MSSQL$Commerce you are trying to run the MSDE as a service and it
won't work.
FYI..following are the limitations of MSDE running on Win9x box,
Microsoft Windows® 98 does not provide support for the following features:
Microsoft Windows NT® authentication
-Fiber mode scheduling
-Asynchronous I/O
-Read ahead
-Performance Monitor counters
-Scatter/Gather I/O
-Named pipes server network library
-Appletalk server or client network library
-Banyan Vines server network library
-Runs as application not as service.
So, you might wanna run the MSDE app along with the OS start ( By including
it in the autoexe.bat) or may wanna start it as a seperate application
(just like
any other apps.exe )
Does that answer your question ?
Thanks for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup.
Vikrant Dalwale
Microsoft SQL Server Support Professional
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http://www.microsoft.com/protect site and perform the three straightforward
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Friday, February 24, 2012

Clustering SQL and service packs

I have a SQL 2000 cluster and have applied SP3 to it.
However, when running on one side of the cluster SQL reports a different
version to when it is running on the other side. Is this normal / expected
or has it not applied SP3 to the other node correctly?
e.g
Running on node 1
select @.@.version
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.760 (Intel X86)
Dec 17 2002 14:22:05
Copyright (c) 1988-2003 Microsoft Corporation
Enterprise Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: )
SELECT SERVERPROPERTY('ProductLevel')
SP3
Running on node 2
select @.@.version
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.194 (Intel X86)
Aug 6 2000 00:57:48
Copyright (c) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation
Enterprise Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: )
SELECT SERVERPROPERTY('ProductLevel')
RTM
If this is not normal / exptected, can I just apply SP3 to node 2 on its
own?
Thanks.
Hi
SQL 2000 sp3 automatically installs itself on all nodes of a cluster. You
have a problem.
Try running it on the 2nd node and see if it will install. Was B down when
sp3 was installed?
Regards
Mike
"Stephen Aldous" wrote:

> I have a SQL 2000 cluster and have applied SP3 to it.
> However, when running on one side of the cluster SQL reports a different
> version to when it is running on the other side. Is this normal / expected
> or has it not applied SP3 to the other node correctly?
> e.g
> Running on node 1
> select @.@.version
> Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.760 (Intel X86)
> Dec 17 2002 14:22:05
> Copyright (c) 1988-2003 Microsoft Corporation
> Enterprise Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: )
> --
> SELECT SERVERPROPERTY('ProductLevel')
> SP3
> --
> Running on node 2
> select @.@.version
> Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.194 (Intel X86)
> Aug 6 2000 00:57:48
> Copyright (c) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation
> Enterprise Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: )
> SELECT SERVERPROPERTY('ProductLevel')
> RTM
>
> If this is not normal / exptected, can I just apply SP3 to node 2 on its
> own?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
|||I've tried to install SP3 on the virtual cluster name again and it crashes
to desktop with an error with _INS576._mp error.
Can I just fail it over to the second node and install SP3 on the local
machine?
"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" <mike@.epprecht.net> wrote in message
news:76ECCB2C-267F-406E-B6EE-0CA05F435A2B@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi
> SQL 2000 sp3 automatically installs itself on all nodes of a cluster. You
> have a problem.
> Try running it on the 2nd node and see if it will install. Was B down when
> sp3 was installed?
> Regards
> Mike
> "Stephen Aldous" wrote:
expected[vbcol=seagreen]
|||Hi
Raise a case with Microsoft PSS as you need their help. Safest.
Regards
Mike
"Stephen Aldous" wrote:

> I've tried to install SP3 on the virtual cluster name again and it crashes
> to desktop with an error with _INS576._mp error.
> Can I just fail it over to the second node and install SP3 on the local
> machine?
> "Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" <mike@.epprecht.net> wrote in message
> news:76ECCB2C-267F-406E-B6EE-0CA05F435A2B@.microsoft.com...
> expected
>
>
|||Hi Steve,
This is not normal. It appears that SP3 got installed only on node 1 and not node 2. Currently your cluster nodes has mis-matched binaries. Infact, SQL Server MAY not even start on node 2 or you may get
unexpected results if you run SQL on node 2.
While SQL is running on node 1, try running SP3 setup on node 2 and see if it succeeds. If it fails then post the exact steps that you took to run the setup, exact error message and the sqlsp.log file.
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Sunday, February 12, 2012

Clustered Index Question

sql2k sp3
If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why would
it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index? It
shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
field anyways?
TIA, ChrisRActually it should be slightly faster than if it were just a heap. A heap
has to do some lookups to determine where to place the next row that have a
slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a monotonically incrementing value
is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated it goes to the end of
the last page.
--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> sql2k sp3
> If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why would
> it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index? It
> shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
> field anyways?
> TIA, ChrisR|||Would Updates be the same?
>--Original Message--
>Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were
just a heap. A heap
>has to do some lookups to determine where to place the
next row that have a
>slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a
monotonically incrementing value
>is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated
it goes to the end of
>the last page.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
>"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
>> sql2k sp3
>> If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
>> Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
>> newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why
would
>> it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index?
It
>> shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
>> Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
>> field anyways?
>> TIA, ChrisR
>
>.
>|||It depends on which columns you modify. If you modify a column which is part of the clustered index,
the row need to be moved. If you modify a column which is part of a non-clustered index, then the
non-clustered index need to be modified accordingly.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:254001c4a4d8$6d1a0710$a501280a@.phx.gbl...
> Would Updates be the same?
>
>>--Original Message--
>>Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were
> just a heap. A heap
>>has to do some lookups to determine where to place the
> next row that have a
>>slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a
> monotonically incrementing value
>>is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated
> it goes to the end of
>>the last page.
>>--
>>Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>>
>>"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
>>news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
>> sql2k sp3
>> If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
>> Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
>> newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why
> would
>> it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index?
> It
>> shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
>> Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
>> field anyways?
>> TIA, ChrisR
>>
>>.|||Did Karen mention something about "hot spots" if using clustered identity
column in her book? I have to look it up...
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
news:#tM$WXNpEHA.1668@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were just a heap. A heap
> has to do some lookups to determine where to place the next row that have
a
> slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a monotonically incrementing
value
> is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated it goes to the end
of
> the last page.
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
> "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> > sql2k sp3
> >
> > If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> > Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> > newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why would
> > it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index? It
> > shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> > Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
> > field anyways?
> >
> > TIA, ChrisR
>|||Who's Karen? What book?
>--Original Message--
>Did Karen mention something about "hot spots" if using
clustered identity
>column in her book? I have to look it up...
>
>"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in
message
>news:#tM$WXNpEHA.1668@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were
just a heap. A heap
>> has to do some lookups to determine where to place the
next row that have
>a
>> slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a
monotonically incrementing
>value
>> is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated
it goes to the end
>of
>> the last page.
>> --
>> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>>
>> "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>> news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
>> > sql2k sp3
>> >
>> > If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
>> > Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
>> > newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why
would
>> > it be any slower than when theres no Clustered
Index? It
>> > shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
>> > Updates be any slower since you cant Update an
Identity
>> > field anyways?
>> >
>> > TIA, ChrisR
>>
>
>.
>|||It's Kalen Delaney and her book is "Inside SQL Server 2000" which every good
dba should have a copy of...
--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:03ec01c4a4ea$a9707ac0$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> Who's Karen? What book?
>
> >--Original Message--
> >Did Karen mention something about "hot spots" if using
> clustered identity
> >column in her book? I have to look it up...
> >
> >
> >
> >"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:#tM$WXNpEHA.1668@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were
> just a heap. A heap
> >> has to do some lookups to determine where to place the
> next row that have
> >a
> >> slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a
> monotonically incrementing
> >value
> >> is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated
> it goes to the end
> >of
> >> the last page.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
> >>
> >>
> >> "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message
> >> news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> > sql2k sp3
> >> >
> >> > If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> >> > Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> >> > newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why
> would
> >> > it be any slower than when theres no Clustered
> Index? It
> >> > shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> >> > Updates be any slower since you cant Update an
> Identity
> >> > field anyways?
> >> >
> >> > TIA, ChrisR
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||In addition to Tibor's comments if you update a variable column it may make
the row too large to fit everything on the page and cause a split. But this
will happen regardless of the column the CI is on if the data won't fit.
--
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:e1EmQnNpEHA.1712@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> It depends on which columns you modify. If you modify a column which is
part of the clustered index,
> the row need to be moved. If you modify a column which is part of a
non-clustered index, then the
> non-clustered index need to be modified accordingly.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:254001c4a4d8$6d1a0710$a501280a@.phx.gbl...
> > Would Updates be the same?
> >
> >
> >>--Original Message--
> >>Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were
> > just a heap. A heap
> >>has to do some lookups to determine where to place the
> > next row that have a
> >>slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a
> > monotonically incrementing value
> >>is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated
> > it goes to the end of
> >>the last page.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
> >>
> >>
> >>"ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message
> >>news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> sql2k sp3
> >>
> >> If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> >> Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> >> newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why
> > would
> >> it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index?
> > It
> >> shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> >> Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
> >> field anyways?
> >>
> >> TIA, ChrisR
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >>
>|||Hi
Hot spotting used to be a bigger problem in pre SQL 2000 SP 2.
The storage engine team have done a lot of improvements in their quest for
better performance. The actual limitation is now the Page Allocation Map.
Unless yopu are pushing 1'000's of inserts per second, you won't have an
issue.
Standard rules apply, keep the transactions short and don't have excessive
indexes.
Regards
Mike
"Raymond Fang" wrote:
> Did Karen mention something about "hot spots" if using clustered identity
> column in her book? I have to look it up...
>
> "Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
> news:#tM$WXNpEHA.1668@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were just a heap. A heap
> > has to do some lookups to determine where to place the next row that have
> a
> > slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a monotonically incrementing
> value
> > is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated it goes to the end
> of
> > the last page.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
> >
> >
> > "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> > > sql2k sp3
> > >
> > > If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> > > Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> > > newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why would
> > > it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index? It
> > > shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> > > Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
> > > field anyways?
> > >
> > > TIA, ChrisR
> >
> >
>
>|||Mike, Thanks!
"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" <mike@.epprecht.net> wrote in message
news:6DC591BA-8EC3-4F9F-BF43-993CB1BA534E@.microsoft.com...
> Hi
> Hot spotting used to be a bigger problem in pre SQL 2000 SP 2.
> The storage engine team have done a lot of improvements in their quest for
> better performance. The actual limitation is now the Page Allocation Map.
> Unless yopu are pushing 1'000's of inserts per second, you won't have an
> issue.
> Standard rules apply, keep the transactions short and don't have excessive
> indexes.
> Regards
> Mike
> "Raymond Fang" wrote:
> > Did Karen mention something about "hot spots" if using clustered
identity
> > column in her book? I have to look it up...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
> > news:#tM$WXNpEHA.1668@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > Actually it should be slightly faster than if it were just a heap. A
heap
> > > has to do some lookups to determine where to place the next row that
have
> > a
> > > slight bit of overhead. A CI insert with a monotonically incrementing
> > value
> > > is a no brainer per say for SQL Server. As you stated it goes to the
end
> > of
> > > the last page.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
> > >
> > >
> > > "ChrisR" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:31d601c4a4d4$5d7139e0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> > > > sql2k sp3
> > > >
> > > > If my Clustered Index is an Identity Coulmn, should
> > > > Inserts still be slowed down. In other words, since a
> > > > newly Inserted row should be stored at the end, why would
> > > > it be any slower than when theres no Clustered Index? It
> > > > shouldnt need to reorganize anything. Aslo, should
> > > > Updates be any slower since you cant Update an Identity
> > > > field anyways?
> > > >
> > > > TIA, ChrisR
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >